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Millennials: In Memoriam
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Today we are joined with show favorite, Adele Stewart talking about the all of the things that millennials have killed for the world, such as Hotels, chain restaurants, and more!
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It's time for another episode of Making a Martini. Yeah. It's a potentially a theme song. We hope you like it. Been working on it for years. Okay, so episode five. All right, we are bringing back a series favorite, and uh, I guess now a series regular, Miss Adele Stewart. Uh, this podcast theme was actually entirely her idea, so I said, well, that means that you have to be on it. So uh, but in this episode, we will be discussing millennials, which we both are. But to make matters more interesting, we are going to be talking about all of the things that millennials have killed, or supposedly killed. So this episode is entitled Millennials in Memorium. With everything that's happening in the world right now and people uh pointing fingers at everybody for everything that's ever happened in the world ever, we thought it would be a good idea to dispel some rumors about millennials and maybe also just flat out prove some people's points to be correct. So let us know if you agree or not in comments and stuff. Not like it's gonna change the already recorded podcast, but you know, you do you, boo-boo. Uh and I figured the best kind of martini to support a meal a millennial-themed podcast would have to have a white claw included in some way, shape, or form. So for this week's cocktail, we have a grapefruit claw teenie. Okay, and this is made up of two parts kettle one botanical grapefruit rose vodka. That is all one thing. It is super specific, but it is fucking worth it. Uh, a splash of elderflower liqueur and uh ruby grapefruit, a ruby grapefruit seltzer topper. So mix the vodka and eldiflower liqueur together, pour it into your cup, top it off with your ruby grapefruit white cloth. Okay, well let's uh get the show on the road and uh see you guys on the other side. Welcome back, Adele.
SPEAKER_01Thank you, Caleb.
SPEAKER_00Of course. So Tadell, we have Tadell Murray today. Today we have something um pretty sad to talk about. It's very serious.
SPEAKER_02Rip.
SPEAKER_00Rip. Um it is millennials in memoriam. And we're gonna be talking about all the things that millennials have killed.
SPEAKER_01Oh, this is this is exciting, but also triggering.
SPEAKER_00It is, or the things that people say millennials or we. We we fall in the age group, things that they say we've killed.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_00You and me personally.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but just us. I know I've done I've killed a lot.
SPEAKER_00Killed killed many a good party. Um so what we're gonna I'm gonna start off with a definition, because I think it's important. People need to know what a millennial is, because I do think there's some confusion. So millennial, generation Y, the group of people born between 1981 and 1996, the children of baby boomers, generally marked by the elevated usage of and familiarity with internet, mobile devices, and social media. Would you agree?
SPEAKER_01That sounds about right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we do like our technology.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we did come up with the internet.
SPEAKER_00We did.
SPEAKER_01We did, because if I can recall a time that I didn't have internet, my parents were in charge. My parents are in charge. I spent a lot of time outdoors.
SPEAKER_00Did you?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I played in dirt once. I was a dirt kid. Oh. Yeah. I like ate dirt.
SPEAKER_00Oh. I ate play-doh.
SPEAKER_01Well, that's just kind of the same. That's just kind of like like almond-flavored dirt.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um yeah. So the term originally came around and what it was meant to be was the it was marked by the age of kids that would be graduating high school in the millennium. So in the year 2000, the group of kids that would be or something. I that was like how like when I found looked to see like how the term came about, that was the definition. I was like, well, that doesn't really make sense. You weren't graduating high school if you were born in 1981. But I guess maybe you were.
SPEAKER_01What year is it?
SPEAKER_00So 2000 20 oh maybe. Maybe, yeah. Like 1981 to 2000, it would have been close.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because I was born in 89 and I graduated 2008.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Because I graduated in 2009. Yeah. But this from 1981, the graduates would have been around the 2000.
SPEAKER_012000.
SPEAKER_00All right, so yeah, that does make sense. So I'm glad we figured that out.
SPEAKER_01We're so smart.
SPEAKER_00I'm really good at math. Uh and it was coined by William Strauss and Neil Howe.
SPEAKER_01Nerds.
SPEAKER_00Freaks. Um. And we have a couple different names that we go by, too. Um Gen Y, which I already referred to it as. And I don't know which how which way to say this. It's eco boomers.
SPEAKER_01Echo boomers. Echo boomers. We're just like repeat boomers?
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_01We're boomers, but faint. We're little boomers. Boomers.
SPEAKER_00The boomerang generation, Peter Pan generation, generation me, the me, me, me generation, next gen, generation 9-11, generation next, the burnout generation.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. Some of those are offensive.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's like, wow. Me, me, me.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's what it is. They think that this the millennial generation are all they are only care about themselves. Everything's about them.
SPEAKER_01You know what though? I just have to not to distract us from this part of the conversation, but ever since this whole election thing came to be, I would say that there are a lot of other generations that have been. Yes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00It is not just us.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh the one so when I was looking those up, Generation 9-11, I thought that was that's a little rough. Sad. Yeah. But um that's because that was like the significant national thing that happened during our like coming of age.
SPEAKER_01That's so true.
SPEAKER_00Like really marked our youth, quote unquote.
SPEAKER_01That's so sad. But you think about like there's like kids now that have no idea what that is or what happened or like how it impacted everything.
SPEAKER_00Well, there's people now that well, obviously there's people that were born after it didn't after it happened. That's stupid. Um But uh yeah, I mean people that it doesn't really even like I don't know. I remember in school every year we had like a whole is your is it is your martini good? Well that's good, I'm glad. Taste tested on air. Um I forget what I was saying.
SPEAKER_01You had like a whole thing in school.
SPEAKER_00Oh, like yeah, like in high school, you know, they it was a whole like we had an assembly every year up until when I graduated. We had one year I graduated, so I don't know if they still do things like that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. Um the other one I didn't care for was the Peter Pan generation. And it's like, you know, the never grow up denying rights of passage, and it's essentially saying that we're pushing off all of the major growing up milestones, like buying a house, going to college, moving out, buying a car, like I mean, everything like that. And I don't agree with that one, uh, for two reasons. One of which is that obviously things are different than when the boomers went to college, like things were so much less expensive, like a lot of millennials don't want to start off their life with$40,000 worth of debt. So I get that. And the other thing that I don't particularly care for about the like Peter Pan generation well, I don't remember. Well I was gonna say the same thing, like buying a house going to call like that whole idea of like we're not doing these things because it's we're kind of set up to not be able to do them. Yeah. Like unless, you know, we have money to start off with, or you know, things are so much more expensive. The economy wasn't set up to help us achieve these things.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agree. I was just thinking when you were talking about all this though, about the I I had to look it up while you're talking about the um Gen X, they're what's called the forgotten generation because they're like supposed to be the ones that are like the bigger slackers. They're the ones I know people in that generation that are still like renting, that are like or like don't have families or things like that. And I'm like, You're really gonna come at us? Like, we're still young. Just because we didn't get married at 18 years old, yeah, like our grandparents did, doesn't mean that we are that we did something wrong.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01When these when these 40-some-year-olds are out here doing God knows what popping out babies left and right, stealing jobs, you know. Yeah, you know, but fucking boomer. No, those are Gen Xers.
SPEAKER_00Oh, Gen Xers, whatever. Both. Wait, when is when is when are the Gen Xers? What year do they are they part of the millennial generation?
SPEAKER_01Or is it how they've like just missed it. So generation X.
SPEAKER_00Are they older or younger?
SPEAKER_01They are they're older than us.
SPEAKER_00They're older than us, okay.
SPEAKER_01They are people, it says, I don't know when this article was written, but they're people that are from 38 to 53. Um, but they've they're like the forgotten middle child, is what people call them. Um they um said that the baby boomers sucked up all the oxygen in the room, dominating our political, educational, business, and social arenas, and then Gen Xers are always just under the shadow of boomers. But I know a lot of like Gen Xers that I would consider semi-boomers, baby boomers. They like fit right perfectly in between yeah. They fit perfectly between baby boomers and millennials.
SPEAKER_00Sort of like the worst qualities of both.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that must suck. I know. So people that are 53 right now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's my mom. She's not she's not 53, but she falls into that generation in case she listens to this. I don't know if she will.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And anyone who's 38 and above, you're great.
SPEAKER_00We're great.
SPEAKER_01We love each other. There's nothing wrong with you. Where would we be without you?
SPEAKER_00Dead.
SPEAKER_01But also stop calling us the lazy ones.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Don't don't be a double-edged sword.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's the wrong use of that. But it sounded good.
SPEAKER_01I liked it.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. Yeah. I worked on it all day. Uh so now now that you all have a just perfect understanding of what a millennial is, thanks to our hard detective work. Um, let's start talking about the things that we have supposedly killed.
SPEAKER_01I I was trying to think of what the song, the music is that they play at funerals, but all I could come up with was dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. Star Wars. Oh.
SPEAKER_00You're talking about the funeral march?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, what's the funeral march?
SPEAKER_00Either way, it's not good. You know, you hear either of those songs, something bad's happening.
SPEAKER_01I know something bad's happening.
SPEAKER_00Um so I'm gonna start with vacations. Supposedly, we have killed vacations. So sorry to everyone else in the world that vacations are ruined. Um and I think in the sense of what they're saying, millennials, how they've killed them, it's not that we've ruined vacations as far as like going places, it's that we don't vacation.
SPEAKER_01So it's not that we're ruining everyone's trip to Disney World, ruined Disney. Yeah. Yeah. We just didn't go.
SPEAKER_00We might have, I'm sure that was on the list somewhere. Um, but we have not ruined like destinations, we have ruined the act of going on vacation. And the reason being, and I do have to agree as a millennial, by saying that our generation is less likely to take time off from work to actually go and take a vacation. Um, and I would say I fall under that. It's very rare when I take a vacation, and even then I'm like super nervous about taking that time off because I'm like, oh my gosh, what if I need it somewhere else? Uh and you know, then it's gone and you don't have it, and then you have to take unpaid time off, and it's not it it makes me nervous to take a vacation.
SPEAKER_01It's so interesting that you say this. I mean, I haven't taken a single day off this year, mostly because of coronavirus, and like there was no reason for me to go anywhere because for a while we couldn't. But when we were younger, when I was younger and I was in the workforce, my first couple jobs, all I did was take days off and like go on vacation and like things like that. And like I was like, I'm just throwing this sick day out in the air because I'm gonna play hook. Because why not? Yeah. And now I don't know what changed. Like for being so entitled and being so me-me-me, like I'm like, I can't.
SPEAKER_00I can't take time off of work. It's I'm also super hypocritical now because when I had my job previous to this, because I don't know if I can say the name of when I where I worked, but that one technological company that I used to work at, I called off all the time. All the time. Like multiple days in a row, and I didn't care. But that could have it didn't start off that way.
SPEAKER_01But now that you're in a role that you like enjoy at a great company, like you're it it means more to me.
SPEAKER_00Like, I I just took my first vacation days in a year because if I didn't take them, I would lose them. Yeah. So I was like, oh well, I have to take, and I only took the minimum that I would lose. Yeah. And I could have easily taken more, but I didn't. And they do say that uh the reason the mental mindset behind that is because we feel that we have more to prove in the workplace. Um, especially because we're now at a time in our lives where we're entering jobs like I have where they're a little bit more serious and you know, you want to look good, you want to do your best, and if there's any like downsizing or things like that, you don't want to be on that, you know, last in, first out kind of basis. Yeah. You know, so it's making sure that you put in the time to prove yourself and say, hey, I'm an employee, I'm not taking vacation because I'm dedicated to this company.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and then you burn out burnout is real.
SPEAKER_00Burnout is real.
SPEAKER_01I definitely I get that. I get that. I need to take days off. I don't know what the Everyone needs to take days off. Yeah, take more days off.
SPEAKER_00We can all go on vacation.
SPEAKER_01Do you ever Disney?
SPEAKER_00We can all go to We're all going to Disney. Everyone take off next week. We're going.
SPEAKER_01It's gonna be a big trip. Yeah. Um, we'll take a shuttle. Um what was I gonna say? Something about we don't wanna take we don't wanna take days off because we if we are the ones who look like we're taking too many too much time off and we look like we're not as like dedicated to our work. I think it goes back to millennials having that struggle of like finances to begin with, that like we can't afford to be.
SPEAKER_00We can't afford to take the time off because we very well might not be getting paid enough to afford to take time. Like, I mean, some people don't get paid for vacation time. Yeah, you can take time off of work. I mean, I guess I'm part of the lucky group that I do get paid for my vacation time. So thank you to my current company that I also don't know if I can say the name of.
SPEAKER_01And thank you to my current company as well. Yes, just thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00All right, let's move on. What else have we killed?
unknownEverything.
SPEAKER_00Everything. That is an option, by the way. Everything was on one of the lists that I saw that Millennials have killed everything. We'll get there. Um, so the other thing that you know we've supposedly killed are I love that it starts off with Buffalo Wild Wings, as if that's the one we killed. But it's I think they're just using it as an example. Buffalo Wild Wings slash chain restaurants. Like, I don't even think of Buffalo Wild Wings when I think of chain restaurants.
SPEAKER_01No, I don't think of Buffalo Wild Wings at all.
SPEAKER_00Ever.
SPEAKER_01People are like, let's get wings. I'm never, ever, ever like Buffalo Wild Wings.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's because we've killed it, Adele.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00Shit. Just proving their point. Uh but when like when I think of chain restaurants, I think of like TGI Fridays, which you do see less of now.
SPEAKER_01I know. They close that one that we like.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And like Olive Garden, which I think they're fine. Yeah, Olive Garden does real Italian food. Yeah. Authentic.
SPEAKER_01Authentic. When you're there, your family. That's gonna be around forever.
SPEAKER_00Um But the the reason that we've killed chain restaurants is because we would rather eat at home, we'd rather do takeout or delivery, grub hub, chef's kiss. Um, and go to places that are a little bit more unique and hole in the wall. That's a phrase.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um and and places that are just a little bit different. Like if I had a choice between going to Buffalo Wild Wings and William Penn Tavern, shout out. I would go to William Penn Tavern.
SPEAKER_01Oh, easily. Well, from a marketing standpoint, I go out. Um Millennials crave experiences more than they crave like like we don't just go to a restaurant to go to a restaurant. Like we go to William Penn Tavern because we know the people, we know the food, we know that there's always gonna be someone there that's like too messed up to function, like and it's gonna be a good time to do it.
SPEAKER_00We know there's Miller Light pictures.
SPEAKER_01We know there's Miller Light Pictures, and we know that there's shots for us with our names on them. And we crave that. We crave places that are like scratch kitchens where everything is like or like the ones where the food is like kind of made in front of you before you. Yeah. So like w we've killed off these chain restaurants because we don't know what's in our food. We we already know what's gonna happen when we're there, and it's like we're just gonna sit and eat dinner and then that's true.
SPEAKER_00Like when I go to a chain restaurant, usually there's one thing that I get. Whereas in if I go to somewhere a little different that doesn't have more than one location that is unique, if I go there more than one time, I usually get something different every single time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you want to just like test out the menu. Yeah. And you want to leave two being like, that was a good meal. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, and I've definitely left chain restaurants being like, mm, that was good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Can't recall one off the top of my head, but I've definitely been there. It's it's happened. It's happened. Um something else that we've killed. And I think this one's interesting because I've I've definitely seen both sides of it. Um so hotels. We've killed hotels. There aren't any more left. They're all gone.
SPEAKER_01Gone.
SPEAKER_00Forever. Don't know where you guys are gonna stay, but it's my fault.
SPEAKER_01It's true. I haven't seen one in Forever.
SPEAKER_00Forever. I've never seen one. That's how dead they are. Um, but it's not necessarily the hotels that we've killed, it's the idea of a hotel. And now that I'm thinking about it, what I have written down, it's almost like the millennials crave more of a private hostel. Which is, I guess, a hotel. But what the point of it is, is that millennials don't crave rooms that have all the bells and whistles. Like we don't care if there's a desk, we don't care if there's a table, we want a bed, we want a shower, maybe a closet. I mean, that's not me. I'm the opposite. I like my hotels to be completely decked out. Same. I want I want all the bells. I want a mini bar. I want a jacuzzi.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00I want a jacuzzi on the balcony. Yes. I want a kitchen.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yes. A little diner. That I won't use. Oh my gosh. One time I stayed at a hotel and I had the front room was a little living room and like coffee and fruit and fridge station. Then the next room was like a really big bathroom. Wow. The next room was my big bed and the balcony. I only stayed there for one night, but I lived like a queen.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Ugh. I'm careful. Sorry. But um the the mentality behind it is that we don't want to spend time in the hotel room. We want um to go to the hotel lobby. I don't know why. But the there's this idea that we're gonna spend time in the lobby socializing and maybe going to the restaurants and the bars and not actually spending time in the hotel room. Now, me personally, I've never hung out in a lobby. I've definitely hung out in a bar.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00More times than I can count. If the bar happens to be in the lobby, then I guess I hung out in the lobby. But um, I also, if I'm at a hotel, I'm not spending time in the hotel at all.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Like you're there to rest your head. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I still want it to be everything. Yeah. But um, so this has in turn, because some hotels are actually catering their rooms to millennials, and that they are very minimalistic, there's nothing really there, and it's pissing the boomers off because they need a desk.
SPEAKER_02They need a desk.
SPEAKER_00And it has become such a big deal that travel forums have started raiding hotels and labeling them as deskless hotel rooms. Oh my god. So that boomers can escape them.
SPEAKER_01Shut up.
SPEAKER_00Sweat of God.
SPEAKER_01I swear to God on my life. That's what they want.
SPEAKER_00Sweat of God on my life. That's what they want. They want a desk, they want shelving dresses.
SPEAKER_01Jesus. That's I mean, yeah. I don't know. When I went to Chicago, my friend and I stayed in a really, really, really ritzy. I guess you could say though that it was like made for young people because the lobby was beautiful. There was like a bar on the one floor, the top floor, there was a bar that overlooked some of the city. And then the room itself was just like it was nice, like, but it was really small. But they had speakers behind the mirror and stuff. So like when we were getting ready for a big night out.
SPEAKER_00So no big deal. Yeah, but speakers on the mirrors.
SPEAKER_01There was a desk.
SPEAKER_00Oh, there was a desk. Yeah, and you know what we used it for? Cocaine.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_01Um, we used it so I could lay all of my makeup and hair products on top of, even though I had like this beautiful like bathroom vanity, great lighting and stuff. I was like, I'm gonna be a trash person and do my makeup on a desk.
SPEAKER_00Was there a mirror behind the desk?
SPEAKER_01No. Oh I use my phone. She's classy.
SPEAKER_00She is. If you could see her now, folks. If only you could see her now. If only you could see her. God.
SPEAKER_01And if you could, you know, if you could only see I don't know where I was trying to do this. I was trying to move into the next uh topic, but I think you did. And if you could see the golf industry now.
SPEAKER_00Jeez, it sounds like maybe we've killed golf.
SPEAKER_01That's correct.
SPEAKER_00Oh shit. God, we're on a spree. A killing spree.
SPEAKER_01What they're saying is that millennials are blamed for killing golf, um, mostly because it's now only becoming more popular as you get older, as opposed to it being like a young person sport. But I I read this. Um, I I have a friend, my boss, actually, who um has talked to me a lot about the golf industry um because he has a company that's involved in the golf industry that's made for actually for young people. But he said that there's this stigma where um people think that golf is for like old snobby white men.
SPEAKER_00Trump. So Trump.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so they uh turtle the turtle. So um they're saying, you know, that uh young people don't want to do it because of this stigma. But I'm saying that I disagree because I see a lot of young people that are out there doing it. I know it's not like a very fun, active, fast-paced sport. It's definitely not, but I see a lot of people who are like competitive people who play and they just try to get better every time.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's good. Yeah. That's I guess that's a point of a sport.
SPEAKER_01And then like Nick's company is to make these golf gloves that have like there's one that has like a marijuana leaf on it, and there's like for pot smokers. Yeah. It's not it's not a maple leaf.
SPEAKER_00It's not a maple leaf.
SPEAKER_01It's kind of biz. Um so they're just trying to make golf like cool. Yeah. And says, you know, it doesn't have to be like stuffy old men in the golf lounge.
SPEAKER_00We have friends that play golf that are our age.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Close to Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01We have we've even got girlfriends who do. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to Diner.
SPEAKER_00Um it I don't know. I'm real I love mini golf. We haven't killed that, have we?
SPEAKER_01No, because I I still think that people are going on dates to like mini golf.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's why I like it.
SPEAKER_01I like it because it's quicker.
SPEAKER_00I like it because I like getting all sorts of fucked up and playing mini golf. It's my favorite. It's my favorite.
SPEAKER_01Mini golf. So the next thing, speaking of sports, that we have killed off, and I found this one to be very interesting. And it's like a way when I first read it, I was like, no way. But after a while, I was like, Yes way. Yahweh. Um, but it's the NFL. Um, I I was reading the article a little bit like like I'm saying, like when I first saw it, I was literally like, no, like millennials are watching football. We have people who are playing football, but it's the millennial parents who have seen the injuries that have come from concussions and from playing sports, yeah, like like football, and they don't want their kids to grow up to play it. So we're finding there's less kids that are getting involved in like contact sports at an early age. They're stipping sticking more to like hockey or like baseball and things that are a little less like Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I I understand that to a certain point. Um mainly because and I f oh I'm gonna forget his name. I wish I had been proactive. Um there was just a Netflix documentary about the guy who wound up killing someone. It was a huge Aaron Hernandez. Yeah. Yep. Um his and it was the blunt force head trauma. There's like a a medical term for it, and I forget what it is.
SPEAKER_01CT.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. That it and they were able to prove that that started in high school. Oh that the the trauma originally came like from there, I think, and that it just grew and grew and grew the more he played, which makes sense. Um so I do get that.
SPEAKER_01I do.
SPEAKER_00And then we No one wants their child to be a murderer.
SPEAKER_01No, and we've seen so many great athletes of our generation just kind of like deteriorate because of this, like Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown. Oh my god. Like I look at that guy and I'm like, that kid's a fool.
SPEAKER_00Like, I I don't think I could ever I used to think he was such a piece of shit. And then I watched that Aaron Hernandez thing, and I was like, oh my god, that's that's what's happening.
SPEAKER_01He's took so many blows to the head that it's just kind of like there's no possible way. Like, I think he was a brat to begin with, but then I don't think that's a good one.
SPEAKER_00Well, I mean, if he was before he started going like full crazy, like I mean, he's the reason I started watching football for one of many reasons, but he's good looking. He's really good looking. So if Antonio Brown, if you're listening, I'm available if you've gone so crazy that you've switched to men. Um not that you have to be crazy to like men. Just saying, just saying, you know, I'll watch I'll watch one of your kids. Um but uh no, I forgot what I was gonna say.
SPEAKER_01You started watching.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, because he was so good, and I could like watch him play and be like, damn, like he's good at what he does. And then you know, he beats up a UPS guy or FedEx guy. Yeah. Delivery man.
SPEAKER_01Someone that didn't deserve to get beat up. So oh, God bless. And that makes me question I've always wanted an athlete as a child, but I'm gonna get so much pushback from people. You want a child that isn't an athlete. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna get pushback from that because people would be like, you have to let your child choose whatever they want to do. I'm like, I'm gonna force my child into basketball.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I will. My dad forced me to play at least one team sport.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I played a couple. Like, I did, I was really good at t ball.
SPEAKER_01Congratulations.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. I was like the best T ball player. And then they took the T away, and I was I may I played one year and got one hit. And then they were like, okay, we should play like maybe like a group team sport. And I was like, okay, I'll play basketball. And I made one basket, my very last game, and it was a foul shot in the last five minutes.
SPEAKER_01That's great.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I mean, we won that game. I don't want to say it was because of me, but Yeah, it was not for not. That point, that point did put us over.
SPEAKER_01So I played it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter at all.
SPEAKER_00The point is you should play you should play sports.
SPEAKER_01You you should play sports. Everyone should play a team sport. If your little kid says I want to play football, let him play football.
SPEAKER_00Don't be an asshole.
SPEAKER_01I mean, you could walk like you could walk outside tomorrow and get hit by a car.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? Like if you get injured playing football. Like, if it's something that they like doing, then I mean Yeah, it's just like the risk that you take.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm not saying that I want them to get hurt doing it, but you know, if it's something that they want to do, like, I mean, don't deprive them of it because you're scared. If they're not scared, you shouldn't be scared. All right, you little bitch. So back the fuck up.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, back the fuck up. Get them out on the field. Just say some just say millennials are are shit.
SPEAKER_00God.
SPEAKER_01Just say some Hail Mary. And then the other thing that I put down was that millennials are uh killing big gyms. Not big like guys named gyms or slim gyms. Or slim gyms. But G Y M X gyms.
SPEAKER_00Big large gyms.
SPEAKER_01Like your YMCAs, your planet fitnesses, your LA fitnesses. And that was another one too that I was like, No. And then I was like, I've gotten rid of every gym membership that I've ever had, mostly because I'm like focusing on like I'll take a yoga class somewhere, or I will take like a rowing class or yeah. I won't, but spin cycle. I'll definitely sign up for a Pilates class and then not take it.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, I love signing up for classes.
SPEAKER_01It's so enjoyable. I have someone reached out to me the other day on Instagram and asked if I would too take a free class at their bar um B-A-R-R-E. Your bar. At their bar at their bar Pilates class. And I was just like, oh my God, I'm going through something right now.
SPEAKER_00Maybe you're like your next one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but I don't want to go and be like and show everyone how not flexible I am anymore.
SPEAKER_00But um I don't want to do yoga because I'm afraid I'm gonna fart.
SPEAKER_01Very valid, very valid.
SPEAKER_00What if I like do downward dog and I shit myself?
SPEAKER_01You should try to take an outdoor yoga class.
SPEAKER_00But isn't it like really quiet? Like people are still gonna hear it.
SPEAKER_01They play music.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's all right. Maybe I'll do an outdoor yoga class. I hate the outdoors.
SPEAKER_01I just really love whenever I would go to yoga and people you could just hear people be like, as they were getting into the I'm like, was is that hard for you?
SPEAKER_00We just sat on the ground. What's the problem?
SPEAKER_01Are you having a tough time? Um But they're saying that they want to take classes at boutique gyms like Soul Cycle, Barry Spoo Camp. We don't have those in Pittsburgh.
SPEAKER_00No, we have Zenergy. We have Zenergy and Row House.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Row House. That's the Rowing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I don't know what that is. House. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01The House of Rowing. House of Rowing. Um But I know that when I joined this one health club in Pittsburgh.
SPEAKER_00She does not like it. I can tell by her face. You guys can't see it, but I did.
SPEAKER_01I walked in and it was like it was right after work, and so I wasn't expecting there to be a ton of young people, and there weren't, but I was like, it it's probably not always like this. No, every time I went it was elderly. Old ass people. And I didn't even want to get in the pool because I was like, Y'all are gonna think I'm trying to desynchronized swimming with you, and I just like don't wanna I just wanna do handstands. I don't want to do that. So um that they were saying in an article that they millennials want com camaraderie, camaraderie?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, so they can feel like they're part of a neighborhood. They found that people wanted a little more of a boutique feel, and that would mean more personal attention at the gime.
SPEAKER_00That makes sense. At the gym. At the gime. That makes sense. It do makes sense. I mean, you want somebody that's gonna be able to help you. Like, I mean, if you go to a Planet Fitness or a a Love Fitness, as I like to call it.
SPEAKER_01Love Fitness.
SPEAKER_00That's because the first time I first saw one, I said, What's in love fitness? And that's why I don't go there. Um But uh like I mean you can go and get personal attention, but you gotta pay for it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean you still have to pay for these other places too, but I mean if they're smaller, there it's it's like a same idea as like being in a classroom. Like you want to go to a, you know, you want your kid to go to a school that has a little bit more or less of a parent or a student teacher ratio.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. Um, the other thing that I put on here, I just sprinkled it in because I saw this and I was like Caleb. But um, they're saying the millennials are killing the martini. I beg to differ. Well, it was mostly they're killing the three martini lunch. The Manhattan lunch. I know, I know. I was like, when I take a lunch, I always drink the money.
SPEAKER_00I always have a martini. Are you kidding? I had a martini. You know what though? So last week I went to Cappy's, just plugging all these shady side restaurants. Um, and uh hope that's legal. And um I I had a Bloody Mary, and then after that, I didn't want another one. I was like, that's a little heavy. And I was like, I want a martini. I've never had a martini here, I want to see what it's like. And the amount of people that walked by and looked at me and were kind of like a martini. I'm like, it's two on two p.m. on Sunday. Yeah, like it's not like it's 9 a.m.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00Okay. I wanted a martini after my meal, and I fucking got one, and people were like turning their head, like from like even from the other side of the street. I was sitting outside to make help it help the story make a little bit more sense. So when people were walking by, they were seeing it. Um and I'm like, I will I will be damned before any let anyone ever shame me for having a martini. And everyone should have a mart one martini a day for the rest of their life. Maybe not, that's a lot. But but still, well why why are we killing the martini now that I've got my rant out? I'm still angry.
SPEAKER_01Um, it was mostly the three martini lunch, like I think that was called like the Manhattan lunch break or something. So when I watched Mad Men, there was an episode where um Don and um his boss went out and got rip roaring hammered off of martinis at lunchtime. But it's they're saying that we're killing that because we're not taking lunch breaks, period.
SPEAKER_00Oh, well, I guess I can attest to that. I did not take one today.
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SPEAKER_01You don't take lunch. I sit at my desk and eat lunch. I sit at my desk and I eat breakfast. I sit at my desk and I sit at my desk.
SPEAKER_00Right. So that's that is it's I mean, I guess it is um at the last place that I worked, the tech company that I can't say the name of, I don't think. Um but uh we were allowed at it's I I think actually we were allowed two drinks at lunch. Like it's it's in like the rules.
SPEAKER_01Alcohol.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like alcohol drinks at lunch. I think it was two. If it wasn't, it doesn't matter. I don't work there. But I'm pretty sure you were allowed to have two drinks.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_00Um on your lunch break.
SPEAKER_01We went to a brewery one time for lunch, and all of us were like, we were all like, are we gonna is this happening?
SPEAKER_00Is everyone getting a drink?
SPEAKER_01Are we gonna get a drink? And it was like pumpkin season. It was Southern Tier. We went to Southern Tier.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01And uh I was like, well, I have to go to Pumpkin. And pumpkin makes me drunk as a skunk. So when I came back to the office, I was useless. So that's usually why I don't um we don't drink at lunch, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Man, if we could just do half days.
SPEAKER_01If we could just take a frickin' vacation.
SPEAKER_00God. Yeah, so upset I can't at my lunch break, but I won't take a vacation. I don't mind getting drunk for the second half of my day, but god forbid I take time off.
SPEAKER_01I gotta look like a work war horse.
SPEAKER_00A war horse. Shit. Um, well, fine. If they want to say that we're killing it, I'm gonna bring it back. This podcast is gonna bring back three martini lunches. People are gonna be puking in the street.
SPEAKER_01Write this down.
SPEAKER_00Um, so I have a sensitive topic to bring up.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00So one of the things that we're getting blamed for, which I fully disagree with, getting blamed for killing, okay, is brunch.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00I'm like, I'm seething right now. Um so there were there's a couple things that I'm like, this is like bullshit. So things that we've killed brunch, napkins, the American dream, America, democracy in general, everything. And I went through each of those articles and I was reading, and I'm like, oh, so you're 60 writing this article. I get it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're passionately angry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so we're we're getting blamed for killing brunch. And the article that I read that said this was from the New York Post by Kirsten Fleming. So look her up and decide not to like her, because I don't. And her article was called Millennials Have Officially Ruined Brunch. It was written in March 20, it was written on March 23rd, 2017. Look up the article, read it, judge for yourself. So that her article starts off by saying how we've ruined everything. She makes this really stupid Sex in the City reference, um, which obviously I have with me, um, about how whenever we go to brunch, we're just trying to discuss who is the Carrie Samantha or Charlotte. And then she says that Miranda was too lame and only ever got a pity invite, which is fucking bullshit because Miranda was the only one that ever had her shit together, and everyone should strive to be a Miranda. Out of all three of those women, you should want to be the Miranda.
SPEAKER_01It's true. She did complain a lot, but she really had her shit together.
SPEAKER_00She bought her own apartment, she had a kid, she moved like she didn't even need Steve. No, she didn't need anyone.
SPEAKER_01She just wanted him.
SPEAKER_00She became partner, like a bad bitch.
SPEAKER_01God we stan a bad bitch.
SPEAKER_00So fuck you, Kirsten Fleming.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, Kirsten Fleming can Oh no, Kirsten. Oh, Kirsten Fleming.
SPEAKER_00That's a typo because autocorrect doesn't computers don't believe that Kirsten is a name.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Kirsten.
SPEAKER_00And I don't believe that Kirsten Fleming is a real person.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it sounds like an alias.
SPEAKER_00Um she says that brunch used to be simple and that you waited for pancakes, hash browns, and a bloody marry and left.
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SPEAKER_00Okay. That sounds great. That sounds like a terrific brunch.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I would do that.
SPEAKER_00Um but lately, brunch has morphed into something more horrible. A millennial lifestyle. They squat at table for hours to eat, drink, drink, drink, and show their 250 Instagram followers what the hashtag brunch goals look like. Spoiler, they look like drunk chicks dressed for the club they couldn't get into the night before.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_00Okay. So naturally, this is like the beginning of the article. And so I was like, all right, cunt. Um so I looked her up. She Has for being a writer for the New Yorker or the no what not the New Yorker, I'm sorry. The New York Post. She has less than 2,000 Instagram followers.
SPEAKER_01Loser. I mean, I like the video.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I guess, yeah, technically so do I. But I don't write for the New York Post.
SPEAKER_01Yes, I don't have a platform.
SPEAKER_00She's not private, by the way, so anyone can follow her. So it's not like she limited herself to approve anyone.
SPEAKER_01Drop the ad.
SPEAKER_00Um and all she posts are pictures of books, tickets, and paper tablecloths. Um also, not to be too bitchy, but it looks like she's never seen the inside of a club, so how the fuck would she know what the girls who don't get in look like? I guess I look like her.
SPEAKER_01I guess you look like Kirsty.
SPEAKER_00Kirsty. Come on, Kirsty. So then not only does she say how we've ruined everything and that we're pieces of shit. That's what I took from that. Um but then she calls out this thing, which I think sounds phenomenal, and I guess I'm really disproving your point. But it's called BrunchCon, and it takes place in Brooklyn, and it is 60 different vendors that like go and you just you pay$60 and you go and you sample all of their brunch food, their drinks. It sounds amazing. I want to go. I really want$60. That's not that bad.
SPEAKER_01Can we go up for a few years?
SPEAKER_00Like you would spend$60 on brunch. Period.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was like the way I drank.
SPEAKER_00The way I mean I had a martini after. Well, I mean, Cappy, it was really affordable. You should go to Cappy's, everybody. But um, she says that brunch con is a cultural affront and refers to it as brunch pocalypse. So she went to Harvard.
SPEAKER_01Okay, Kirsten.
SPEAKER_00So basically what I'm saying is Kirsten Fleming can go second egg.
SPEAKER_01A fat egg.
SPEAKER_00A fat egg. I hope it's spoiled. I just thought. Just like you, you dumb bitch.
SPEAKER_01She says brunch used to be simple. You waited for pancakes, hash browns, and a bloody marry. I'm like, that's breakfast, boo-boo.
SPEAKER_00That's breakfast.
SPEAKER_01That's just breakfast. Brunch is an offering of breakfast foods and lunch foods. Hence, they put them together. They marry the words and make brunch.
SPEAKER_00Stupid bitch. And no one wakes for or waits for pancakes and hash browns. Even for breakfast, you don't wait for that.
SPEAKER_01And I can make that at home.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So I'm not going out to restaurants and getting pancakes and hash browns. They don't even go together, Kirsten.
SPEAKER_01I'm getting something weird, Kirsten. And restaurants, restaurants want us to come to brunch. They make brunch menus so we can sit there all day, so we can spend$60 and pay their servers 20 bucks.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because we're too drunk to figure out what a tip is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And we're millennials, so we're really stupid, so we don't know what 20% of$60 is.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And also, if you want to say that we've killed chain restaurants, even chain restaurants have good brunches. So cut us a fucking break. If you want to go and you want to pay your$10 for pancakes and hash browns and a bloody Mary, bitch, I bet you don't even leave a tip.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, bitch. I bet Kirsten has like approximately two friends.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Her dog and her cat left hand. Oh. I assume she masturbates with her left hand.
SPEAKER_01And I assume she has cats.
SPEAKER_00And that's the difference between you and me. Um and so the last thing, and I did mention it, I think I think I said oh, how millennials are killing everything. Quite literally, the everything article, it was actually in favor of millennials. It says millennials are killing everything. And here's why.
SPEAKER_01And like it's a good thing.
SPEAKER_00It's not necessarily a good thing, it's just an explanation. And it's not our fault. It truly is. So people that are millennials, let's say the millennials that started in 1981, right? If you were born in 1981, technically you weren't a millennial until 2000, right? But even in 2000 when you're 18. Alright, so I didn't turn 18 until 2009. So technically that though that nine years, I did nothing to perpetuate any of the things that we've killed. So if this all started once millennials started becoming millennials, so many of us lived with our parents. So if there's things that we killed, guess whose fucking fault it is? Our parents. And I'm not saying that I'm here to blame our parents, but I do. So mom and dad, it's your fault.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um and that's it. Yeah, I mean, everything that happens before we're 18 that would perpetuate the millennial stereotype. There's not really much we could have done about that, really.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, see, I don't know, because we talk about chain restaurants, and like when I was growing up, we went to a lot of chain restaurants. Maybe that's why it's killed.
SPEAKER_00Because I'm like, I don't want to do it anymore.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I got Bob Evans delivered the other day because I was like hung over and I was like, I really want some pancakes. And it was shit food.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Never again.
SPEAKER_00Um I well, that's how you feel about Bob Evans.
SPEAKER_01I'm so sorry, Bob. I'm sorry, Bob.
SPEAKER_00Um but and I I did bring this up a little bit earlier how we don't want to go to college right away. Um I kind of wish I hadn't, to be honest. I wish I would have waited and I probably would have done better to be honest.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I guess you're at a different point in your life.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like I I definitely went into it coming right out of school, not wanting to open a book. Yeah. I was like, and I went to IUP, so you know, I usually party. And I did. I absolutely did. Yeah. And uh but then the other thing of it is is that millennials are now much more aware of or were aware of going to college and what they were gonna look at coming out. Like you're gonna have this huge bill that six months after you graduate, they start coming for you for, so you best be ready. And you know, tele tuition. Oh, wait, actually I wrote it down. The cost of tuition for college now compared to the 80s when baby boomers would go to college has risen by 213%.
SPEAKER_01Oh small time.
SPEAKER_00So if you're a baby boomer listening to this and you think about what you paid for college, raise that by 213% and figure out why the fuck we don't want to go.
SPEAKER_01That's what's so annoying about like the the boomers and like some of these older generations is and a lot of them too didn't even go to college. You know, like they started their careers and their family lives, or they went to trade school or something like that. Whereas like Which is fine. Which is fine, yeah, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but they try to compare it where they're like, I don't have all these student loans, I don't have all these student loans. Like and I I know that there are a ton of people that who that went to these expensive colleges that may have taken out higher loans and higher interest rates and things like that and didn't pay interest as they went, so they're facing like a lot of debt right now. And I know that there's a ton of people who who would have changed or who now would have traded their education for a smaller student loan. And that's fucked up.
SPEAKER_00That's insane.
SPEAKER_01Like you should be able to go to the school that you want to go, you should be able to have a great education and get a great degree and be able to speak on the things that you learned in college without having to be like, whenever you think about college, being like, should I have done that? It's so expensive. Like I'm gonna be paying for it until I'm 70 years old.
SPEAKER_00It it and you can apply that to quite a few things. Like, I mean, there's a lot of millennials that don't want to purchase property because they probably didn't learn a whole lot about it anyway. And uh you know, houses cost in general cost more.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So that brings up a great point about what you were bringing up before about our parents. Like my parents didn't really teach me much about taxes. They didn't teach me much. My mom wasn't a homeowner, so I didn't know anything about owning a home. Like, I you could ask me, like, what's the home buying process like? And I would be like, um, there's like a bunch of numbers and stuff. Like, I did it, but I don't I can't tell you why numbers look the way they do and what interest is and things like that. But um like our our parents had the pe their parents who were very much like you work for your dollar, you work for your house, you work for your family, and things like that. Like they had a very different viewpoint. Um and I think our parents resented their parents for making them work so hard, yeah, that they didn't instill the same thing.
SPEAKER_00They were a little bit more laxadaisical. Yeah. Or they were a little bit more laxadaisical.
SPEAKER_01But now they're mad at us.
SPEAKER_00Because right, right. Like the the parent generation of the millennials are the ones that are now like, well, what are you doing? And I when my parents bought like the house that I grew up in, it was a four-bedroom, two-bathroom, four-story house, and it was definitely less than a hundred thousand dollars. Granted, it was my grandparents' house. Yeah. So when they passed, it was we bought it from whoever inherited it, so I'm sure we did get some kind of deal. But either way, that wasn't like an obscene amount of money for the neighborhood that we lived in. You know what I mean? So I'm like, I couldn't imagine trying to find a four-bedroom, two-bathroom, four-story house for under a hundred thousand dollars. I don't even know where you'd look.
SPEAKER_01Newcastle.
SPEAKER_00And I'm not trying to live there. Sorry if you live in Newcastle, Newcastle. But I don't want to live there. Um But I there's this other kind of idea when in regards to ruining everything that we ruin the economy. And we didn't ruin the economy. All these things that people are saying that we've killed, right? Chain restaurants, gyms, what else did we fucking talk about? Hotels, vacations, golf, like all these things. The economy didn't millennials aren't interested in in these things. Okay. It's not that we've killed it, it's that we're not fucking interested. But yet those those topics that we talked about aren't doing their market research to find out what their niche market is and they're not appealing to us.
SPEAKER_01Right. Like we so we get clients all the time who are like, we want to we're like, who's your target audience? And they're like, everyone. Not everyone's your target audience. Not everyone is your target audience. Yes. So like if hotels aren't being adaptable to who their market actually is, they're not gonna survive. Like, like, um what's the other thing that you said?
SPEAKER_00Chain restaurants that offer like early word specials at four. Like, you think millennials are gonna go in? Millennials don't eat until eight.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00So, like, you're lucky that I make it to happy hours sometimes.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00And that's hard.
SPEAKER_01And if you don't have like the right drink specials or like food specials, like if if if I know, like I used to love Applebee's, I worked at Applebee's, but I know that Applebee's comes in bags, right? It's frozen in bags and then microwaved and then thrown on plates. So this is we know that. So like if they're not able to be like change their marketing to we make everything from scratch, like Wendy's went from frozen to trash, like they're never frozen. They have to be able to adjust to be adaptable, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So we're not killing the economy. They're the economy's killing itself.
SPEAKER_00It's doing itself because you're not up, you're not appealing to the people who are going to be here longer than the market that you're currently uh going for. Well, what happens when, yeah, like the when when the when the elderly what happens when the elderly die?
SPEAKER_01You know, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Is that when you're gonna decide to change? Because I already don't like you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I'm not I'm not going there. Like I'm not going to eat and park, no offense, eat and park.
SPEAKER_00I sometimes do.
SPEAKER_01Cream of potato soup, so good.
SPEAKER_00But I I truly do think that millennials have just become the scapegoat for the reason that things are dying out or the reason the economy's bad. Those damn millennials, and it's like, no, no, no, no. Just because we're not doing something doesn't mean we're ruining something. It means that you don't appeal to us. So what are you gonna do to change? And I guess that does apply to like the me, me, me, me generation. Yeah, but I'm okay if they don't. That's the difference. I don't care if hotels don't appeal to me because I'm not interested in them. It's not gonna affect me.
SPEAKER_01We've got Airbnbs, you've got Airbnbs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I've got grinder.
SPEAKER_01I can sleep on someone's couch, like it's fine.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, in someone's bed, like whatever, like whatever you're thinking. Um, but uh don't do you have anything else to add?
SPEAKER_01I'd say the economy is sitting here like it's sitting here like we would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those pesky millennials.
SPEAKER_00Pesky millennials. All right, well, you heard it straight from old man wither's mouth. Um and uh so we're all going to you know bow our heads, say a little prayer for all the things millennials have killed, and uh we will be right back. Well, I would just like to thank Adele for coming back on this episode of Make Nummer Teen. Um it sure was uh provoking. Um but really like it actually was. Um this was a hard topic to really come up with a wrap-up for because in talking with Adele and it kind of just seemed like I was on the defense because I do fall into the group of millennials. I fall into that age group. And so, I mean, with how the world works now when it comes to like pointing the finger of flame, you know, and everything's crazy. Uh it it just made this wrap-up part a little bit more difficult. Uh but the way I kind of see it, it's uh sort of like millennials are the next group to really take over. You know, the baby boomers are becoming the seniors, and we are now here and ready. And it kind of makes me think of like kids in the 50s and 60s who their parents would be like, oh, but listen to that rock and roll music. What are these kids coming to? It's kind of the same thing. I just feel like that's where we are now. Uh I can sit down with everyone a little bit in the plenal. Uh so that's really about all I have to say. I'm not sure how thought-provocing that was or what you think, but obviously please let us know what you think. Uh, we're always open for feedback. And when I say we're, I'm meaning me, because it's really just me, but I'll share my thoughts or your thoughts with other people, I guess. Uh so that's about all I have to say on this topic, and we will see you next time on making a martini up to dry and straight to the point.
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